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СПОЙЛЕРЫ!!! НЕ ЗАБЫВАЕМ ПРО ТЭГИ!

Автор Родривар Тихера, 05 сентября 2010, 16:54

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kitovras

ЦитироватьСори, запутался в именах. Имел в виду смерть Осан'гар от Элзы
если бы Элза не убила Дашиву, Дашива убил бы Ранда, Ранд был рядом, сработало его "везение"..

ЦитироватьЛанфир, Белал
рядом с Морейн был Ранд, да и не умерла она

Асмодиана убил некто, но этот некто, подозреваю, сравним с Рандом, а никак с рядовыми людьми или ченеллерами

Балтамела, извините, тоже не трив убил, а создание Эпохи легенд

Родривар Тихера

Цитата: kitovras от 28 сентября 2010, 16:42а Грендаль, так та и вовсе окружала себя такими людьми, которые даже не подумают о ноже в спину
Вот по "свите" из таких людей ее и вычислят. О чем ее, кстати, еще Саммаэль предупреждал.
Цитата: kitovras от 28 сентября 2010, 16:42в книге неоднократно приводятся примеры того, как Белая башня, Черная башня, государства, империи и обычные люди были подчинены Отрекшимся и "убого сливались", только сюжетообразующие пассионарии оказались способны с ними справиться, подозреваю, что в отсутствие ВД какой-нибудь Отрекшийся будет править регионом или даже миром: "я шепнул, и айз седай умерли, я шепнул, и Сияющие стены были осаждены"
Ну я же написал: нормального государства - а не тех полуобморочных госформирований, что мы видели к исходу Эпохи в Рандландии, которые ткни пальцем - развалятся. И не чего то типа "государство это Я", как в случае с Ишамаэлем и АЯК. Против нормального государства в одиночку никто не выстоит - даже Дракон.

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Цитата: DolByc от 28 сентября 2010, 23:15В рецензии Дензела было написано, что эта книга Мэта и Перрина, и в меньшей степени Илейн.
А так же Авиенды, и Ранда с Эгвейн тоже - про них не забыли, да еще и Лойал. По потертому спойлеру того же Дензела, так первые главы вообще про Ранда - он там намеревался, с начала первой главы, кому то мозги вправлять (первые кандидаты - Таим и Эгвейн).
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Цитата: Эоэлла от 29 сентября 2010, 01:02Если ЛТТ не в силах был зондировать Принуждение, каким образом Грендаль намеревалась его запутать?
Ну не верю я в то, что она не знала сильных и слабых сторон бывшего главнокомандующего сил Света.
Судя по ПРОМТовскому переводу, тут имела место просто попытка Грендаль показать Арангар "кто в доме хозяин", когда та намекнула ей, что драпать от ВД в глазах ВПТ стремно. Вот главная причина припахивания Арангар и Деланы - а "проверка" Ранда это уже для подведения "базы" под своё командирство. Ну и плюс, конечно, что по факту оказалось, что если она и знала ЛТТ, то Ранда знала ГОРАЗДО хуже.
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Цитата: kitovras от 13 сентября 2010, 12:13
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1. Questions of Leadership  (Вопросы лидерства)
Сложно себе представить, что вопросы лидерства, стоявшие перед Перрином, Мэтом, Эгвейн и тем более Рандом, рассматривавшиеся в течение предыдущих книг, будут подниматься в следующей, ей-богу, все уже решено - для Ранда в Твердыне, для Перрина - при освобождении Фэйли, для Эгвейн - после казни черных, для Мэта - после создания Красной руки, не нужно выдумывать велосипед. Даже Найнив уже достаточно повзрослела, чтобы не идти на Кадсуане напролом.
Предыдущие книги подводят нас только к одному конфликту такого рода - Лан, воин-одиночка, забывший, что он король. В связи с этим и первая, и тем более четвертая главы относятся к Лану. Но вот подобное внимание к делам Лана, аж 2 главы, заставляет меня думать, что этим не кончится, Лан с ополчением доберется до Тарвинова ущелья, где "спят" сотни поколений мужчин, и дождутся своей "крови в воздухе".
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Оригинальная масль!!

Шарин Налхара

В сети стала доступная первая глава Башен Полуночи!

Глава 1. Сперва яблоки
CHAPTER ONE – Apples First

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose above the misty peaks of Imfaral. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.

Crisp and light, the wind danced across fields of new mountain grass stiff with frost. That frost lingered past first light, sheltered by the omnipresent clouds that hung like a death mask high above. It had been weeks since those clouds had budged, and the wan, yellowed grass showed it.

The wind churned morning mist, moving southward, chilling a small pride of torm. They reclined on a flat, lichen-stained granite shelf, waiting to bask in morning sunlight that would not arrive. The wind poured over the shelf, racing down a hillside of scraggly mura trees, with ropelike bark and green tufts of thick, needlelike leaves atop them.

At the base of the foothills, the wind turned eastward, passing an open plain kept free of trees and scrub by the soldier’s axe. The killing field surrounded thirteen fortresses, tall and cut entirely from unpolished black marble, their blocks left rough- hewn to give them a primal feeling of unformed strength. These were towers meant for war. By tradition they were unoccupied. How long that would last— how long tradition itself would be remembered in a continent in chaos— remained to be seen.

The wind continued eastward, and soon it was playing with the masts of half- burned ships at the docks of Takisrom. Out into the Sleeping Bay, it passed the attackers: enormous greatships with sails painted blood red. They sailed southward, their grisly work done.

The wind blew onto land again, past smoldering towns and villages, open plains filled with troops and docks fat with warships. Smoke, war calls and banners fl ew above dying grass and beneath a dockmaster’s gloomy sky.

Men did not whisper that this might be the end of times. They yelled it. The Fields of Peace were aflame, the Tower of Ravens was broken as prophesied and a murderer openly ruled in Seandar. This was a time to lift one’s sword and choose a side, then spill blood to give a final color to the dying land.

The wind howled eastward over the famed Emerald Cliffs and coursed out over the ocean. Behind, smoke seemed to rise from the entire continent of Seanchan.

For hours, the wind blew— making what would have been called tradewinds in another Age— twisting between whitecaps and dark, mysterious waves. Eventually, the wind encountered another continent, this one quiet, like a man holding his breath before the headsman’s axe fell.

By the time the wind reached the enormous, broken- peaked mountain known as Dragonmount, it had lost much of its strength. It passed around the base of the mountain, then through a large orchard of apple trees, lit by early- afternoon sunlight. The once- green leaves had faded to yellow.

The wind passed by a low wooden fence, tied at its joints with tan linen twine. Two figures stood there: a youth and a somber man in his later years. The older man wore a pair of worn brown trousers and a loose white shirt with wooden buttons. His face was so furrowed with wrinkles that it seemed kin to the bark of the trees.

Almen Bunt didn’t know a lot about orchards. Oh, he had planted a few trees back on his farm in Andor. Who didn’t have a tree or two to fill in space on the dinner table? He’d planted a pair of walnut trees on the day he’d married Adrinne. It had felt good to have her trees there, outside his window, after she’d died.

Running an orchard was something else entirely. There were nearly three hundred trees in this field. It was his sister’s orchard; he was visiting while his sons managed his farm near Carysford.

In his shirt pocket, Almen carried a letter from his sons. A desperate letter, pleading for help, but he couldn’t go to them. He was needed here. Besides, it was a good time for him to be out of Andor. He was a Queen’s man. There had been times, recently, when being a Queen’s man could get someone into as much trouble as having one too many cows in his pasture.

“What do we do, Almen?” Adim asked. “Those trees, they . . . Well, it ain’t supposed to happen like this.” The boy of thirteen had golden hair from his father’s side.

Almen rubbed his chin, scratching at a patch of whiskers he’d missed during shaving. Hahn, Adim’s older brother, approached them. The lad had carved Almen a set of wooden teeth as an arrival gift earlier in the spring. Wondrous things, held together by wires, with gaps for the few remaining teeth he had. But if he chewed too hard, they’d go all out of shape.

The rows of trees were straight and perfectly spaced. Graeger— Almen’s brother- in- law—always had been meticulous. But he was dead now, which was why Almen had come. The neat rows of trees continued on for spans and spans, carefully pruned, fertilized, and watered.

And during the night, every single one of them had shed their fruit. Tiny apples, barely as large as a man’s thumb. Thousands of them. They’d shriveled during the night, then fallen. An entire crop, gone.

“I don’t know what to say, lads,” Almen finally admitted.

“You, at a loss for words?” Hahn said. Adim’s brother had darker coloring, like his mother, and was tall for his fifteen years. “Uncle, you usually have as much to say as a gleeman who’s been at the brandy for half the night!” Hahn liked to maintain a strong front for his brother, now that he was the man of the family. But sometimes it was good to be worried.

And Almen was worried. Very worried.

“We barely have a week’s grain left,” Adim said softly. “And what we’ve got, we got by promises on the crop. Nobody will give us anything, now. Nobody has anything.”

The orchard was one of the largest producers in the region; half the men in the village worked it during one stage or another. They were depending on it. They needed it. With so much food going bad, with their stores used up during the unnatural winter . . .

And then there was the incident that had killed Graeger. The man had walked around a corner over in Negin Bridge and vanished. When people went looking, all they found was a twisted, leafless tree with a gray-white trunk that smelled of sulphur.

The Dragon’s Fang had been scrawled on a few doors that night. People were more and more nervous. Once, Almen would have named them all fools, jumping at shadows and seeing bloody Trollocs under every cobblestone.

Now . . . well, now he wasn’t so sure. He glanced eastward, toward Tar  Valon. Could the witches be to blame for the failed crop? He hated being so close to their nest, but Alysa needed the help.

They’d chopped down that tree and burned it. You could still smell brimstone in the square.

“Uncle?” Hahn said, sounding uncomfortable. “What . . . what do we do?”

“I . . .” What did they do? “Burn me, but we should all go to Caemlyn. I’m sure the new Queen has everything cleared up there by now. We can get me settled right by the law. Who ever heard of such a thing, gaining a price on your head for speaking out in favor of the Queen?” He realized he was rambling. The boys kept looking at him.

“No,” Almen continued. “Burn me, boys, but that’s wrong. We can’t go. We need to keep on working. This isn’t any worse than when I lost my entire millet field to a late frost twenty years back. We’ll get through this, right as Light we will.”

The trees themselves looked fine. Not an insect bite on them, leaves a little yellowed, but still good. Sure, the spring buds had come late, and the apples had grown slowly. But they had been growing.

“Hahn,” Almen found himself saying. “You know your father’s felling axe has those chips on it? Why don’t you go about getting it sharpened? Adim, go fetch Uso and Moor and their carts. We’ll sort through those fallen apples and see if any aren’t rotted too badly. Maybe the pigs will take them.” At least they still had two. But there’d been no piglets this spring.

The youths hesitated.

“Go on now,” Almen said. “No use dallying because we’ve had a setback.”

The lads hastened off, obedient. Idle hands made idle minds. Some work would keep them from thinking about what was to come.

There was no helping that for him. He leaned down on the fence, feeling the rough grooves of the unsanded planks under his arms. That wind tugged at the tails of his shirt again; Adrinne had always forced him to tuck it in, but now that she was gone, he . . . well, he never had liked wearing it that way.

He tucked the shirt in anyway.

The air smelled wrong somehow. Stale, like the air inside a city. Flies were starting to buzz around the shriveled bits that had once been apples.

Almen had lived a long time. He’d never kept count; Adrinne had done that for him. It wasn’t important. He knew he’d seen a lot of years, and that was that.

He’d seen insects attack a crop; he’d seen plants lost to flood, to drought, or to negligence. But in all his years, he’d never seen anything like this. This was something evil. The village was already starving. They didn’t talk about it, not when the children or youths were around. The adults quietly gave what they had to the young and to women who were nursing. But the cows were going dry, the stores spoiling, the crops dying.

The letter in his pocket said his own farm had been set upon by passing mercenaries. They hadn’t harmed anyone, but they’d taken every scrap of food. His sons survived only by digging half- grown potatoes from the crop and boiling them. They found nineteen out of every twenty rotting in the ground, inexplicably full of worms despite green growth above.

Dozens of nearby villages were suffering the same way. No food to be had. Tar Valon itself was having trouble feeding its people.

Staring down those neat, perfect rows of useless apple trees, Almen felt the crushing weight of it. Of trying to remain positive. Of seeing all his sister had worked for fail and rot. These apples . . . they were supposed to have saved the village, and his sons.

His stomach rumbled. It did that a lot lately.

This is it then, isn’t it? he thought, eyes toward the too- yellow grass below. The fight just ended.

Almen slumped down, feeling a weight on his shoulders. Adrinne, he thought. There had been a time when he’d been quick to laugh, quick to talk. Now he felt worn, like a post that had been sanded and sanded and sanded until only a sliver was left. Maybe it was time to let go.

He felt something on his neck. Warmth.

He hesitated, then turned weary eyes toward the sky. Sunlight bathed his face. He gaped; it seemed so long since he’d seen pure sunlight. It shone down through a large break in the clouds, comforting, like the warmth of an oven baking a loaf of Adrinne’s thick sourdough bread.

Almen stood, raising a hand to shade his eyes. He took a deep, long breath, and smelled . . . apple blossoms? He spun with a start.

The apple trees were flowering.

That was plain ridiculous. He rubbed his eyes, but that didn’t dispel the image. They were blooming, all of them, white flowers breaking out between the leaves. The flies buzzed into the air and zipped away on the wind. The dark bits of apple on the ground melted away, like wax before a flame. In seconds, there was nothing left of them, not even juice. The ground had absorbed them.

What was happening? Apple trees didn’t blossom twice. Was he going mad?

Footsteps sounded softly on the path that ran past the orchard. Almen spun to find a tall young man walking down out of the foothills. He had deep red hair and he wore ragged clothing: a brown cloak with loose sleeves and a simple white linen shirt beneath. The trousers were finer, black with a delicate embroidery of gold at the cuff.

“Ho, stranger,” Almen said, raising a hand, not knowing what else to say, not even sure if he’d seen what he thought he’d seen. “Did you . . . did you get lost up in the foothills?”

The man stopped, turning sharply. He seemed surprised to find Almen there. With a start, Almen realized the man’s left arm ended in a stump.

The stranger looked about, then breathed in deeply. “No. I’m not lost. Finally. It feels like a great long time since I’ve understood the path before me.”

Almen scratched the side of his face. Burn him, there was another patch he’d missed shaving. His hand had been shaking so much that he might as well have skipped the razor entirely. “Not lost? Son, that pathway only leads up the slopes of Dragonmount. The area’s been hunted clean, if you were hoping to find some game. There’s nothing back there of use.”

“I wouldn’t say that,” the stranger said, glancing over his shoulder. “There are always things of use around, if you look closely enough. You can’t stare at them too long. To learn but not be overwhelmed, that is the balance.”

Almen folded his arms. The man’s words . . . it seemed they were having two different conversations. Perhaps the lad wasn’t right in the head. There was something about the man, though. The way he stood, the way those eyes of his stared with such calm intensity. Almen felt like standing up and dusting off his shirt to make himself more presentable.

“Do I know you?” Almen asked. Something about the young man was familiar.

“Yes,” the lad said. Then he nodded toward the orchard. “Gather your people and collect those apples. They’ll be needed in the days to come.”

“The apples?” Almen said, turning. “But—” He froze. The trees were burgeoning with new, ripe red apples. The blossoms he’d seen earlier had fallen free, and blanketed the ground in white, like snow.

Those apples seemed to shine. Not just dozens of them on each tree, but hundreds. More than a tree should hold, each one perfectly ripe.

“I am going mad,” Almen said, turning back to the man.

“It’s not you who is mad, friend,” the stranger said. “But the entire world. Gather those apples quickly. My presence will hold him off for a time, I think, and whatever you take now should be safe from his touch.”

That voice . . . Those eyes, like gray gemstones cut and set in his face. “I do know you,” Almen said, remembering an odd pair of youths he had given a lift in his cart years ago. “Light! You’re him, aren’t you? The one they’re talking about?”

The man looked back at Almen. Meeting those eyes, Almen felt a strange sense of peace. “It is likely,” the man said. “Men are often speaking of me.” He smiled, then turned and continued on his way down the path.

“Wait,” Almen said, raising a hand toward the man who could only be the Dragon Reborn. “Where are you going?”

The man looked back with a faint grimace. “To do something I’ve been putting off. I doubt she will be pleased by what I tell her.”

Almen lowered his hand, watching as the stranger strode away, down a pathway between two fenced orchards, trees laden with blood- red apples. Almen thought— for a moment— he could see something around the man. A lightness to the air, warped and bent.

Almen watched the man until he vanished, then dashed toward Alysa’s house. The old pain in his hip was gone, and he felt as if he could run a dozen leagues. Halfway to the house, he met Adim and the two workers coming to the orchard. They regarded him with concerned eyes as he pulled to a halt.

Unable to speak, Almen turned and pointed back at the orchards. The apples were red specks, dotting the green like freckles.

“What’s that?” Uso asked, rubbing his long face. Moor squinted, then began running toward the orchard.

“Gather everyone,” Almen said, winded. “Everyone from the village, from the villages nearby, people passing on Shyman’s road. Everyone. Get them here to gather and pick.”

“Pick what?” Adim asked with a frown.

“Apples,” Almen said. “What else bloody grows on apple trees! Listen, we need every one of those apples picked before the day ends. You hear me? Go! Spread the word! There’s a harvest after all!”

They ran off to look, of course. It was hard to blame them for that. Almen continued on, and as he did, he noticed for the first time that the grass around him seemed greener, healthier.

He looked eastward. Almen felt a pull inside of him. Something was tugging him softly in the direction the stranger had gone.

Apples first, he thought. Then . . . well, then he’d see.
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Глава называется "Сперва яблоки" и является ПоВом уже знакомого нам фермера Алмена Банта (напоминаю - этот дядечка в ОМ довез больного Мэта и Ранда до Кэймлина и не сдал их Приспешникам)
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Шарин Налхара
Мать Матчасти
Леди Косы и Сковородки
Богиня, вампир, гном, охотник, принц Хаоса, пират, бабуля и Мистер Пушистиус.
Щасвирнус
Колдунья из Кварта
Янеубивашка (с)

Madina

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Ух ты! Круто. Я все-таки не сдержалась и кинула текст в электронный переводчик)))
Теперь понятно, что Ранд идет поговорить с Эгвейн)И кажется она не будет рада тому, что он ей собирается сказать.
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Нет ничего страшней отваги, когда она обречена...

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We are not gonna be like you
We don't follow - King of fools!

Phoenix_1973

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Очень библейская глава , Ранд считай что в буквальном смысле даровал манну небесную голодным фермерам . Его таверенство после эпифании похоже стало работать только в плюс и светлый ореол как подтверждение этого . Очень надеюсь Ранда из ГБ мы больше не увидим  :)
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Тьма - рука правая Света , Свет - рука левая Тьмы .

warmage

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Цитата: Phoenix_1973 от 01 октября 2010, 17:15
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Очень библейская глава , Ранд считай что в буквальном смысле даровал манну небесную голодным фермерам . Его таверенство после эпифании похоже стало работать только в плюс и светлый ореол как подтверждение этого . Очень надеюсь Ранда из ГБ мы больше не увидим  :)
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ЦитироватьВозможно, парень был не прав в голову.
Ответим переводом одного из предложений данной главы в Google.
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И возвращается вопрос с фразой Морейн что узор не является злом или добром(по воздействию Ранда) На текущий момент мы увидели и конкретно направленное воздействие во зло в течении периода, и аналогичное на добро.
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Эоэлла

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Нет сил это пережить... Ничто не бывает так прекрасно или так ужасно, как оно сбылось... Ни к чему все рассуждения о сферах влияния в мире... просто дико... чего и следовало ожидать...
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Борец с порчей на саидин

Лиса Маренеллин

Блиииин!!!!!!!!!!!! У меня даже промта нету. Когда будет перевод, хоть примерный?
Лиса Маренеллин

Нельзя пошевелить пальцем, не побеспокоив мироздания (с) Ла Вей
Муля, не нервируй меня (с) Фаина Раневская

Страж - Эльф Лориеновский и

2 сына есть! Дочка есть! Осталось только собаку завести. Правда тогда может муж уйти...

Влaдимир

Зачем на бал пришел медведь?..

Эоэлла

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Ох, не знаю, когда. Только Phoenix совершенно прав насчет "нисхождения с горы в библейском духе". И многое другое, на этом фоне, становится ох как мелким...
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Борец с порчей на саидин

bladdefurry

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Отличная глава!Таким манером Ранд может попытаться и перемирие с Туон заключить ещё раз.Интересно насколько далеко распространяется его влияние?
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The killing field surrounded thirteen fortresses, tall and cut entirely from unpolished black marble, their blocks left rough- hewn to give them a primal feeling of unformed strength. These were towers meant for war. By tradition they were unoccupied. How long that would last— how long tradition itself would be remembered in a continent in chaos— remained to be seen.

а это похоже на Башни Полуночи :-3
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"Beware my friends, as you pass by
As you are now so once was I
As I am now so you must be
Prepare my friends to follow me"
© Dave Mustaine

Madina

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Цитата: bladdefurry от 01 октября 2010, 20:10Интересно насколько далеко распространяется его влияние?
И насколько долго). Хочется думать, что "светлое таверенство" это долговременный эффект,но кто его знает..
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Цитата: Madina от 01 октября 2010, 19:15
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И насколько долго). Хочется думать, что "светлое таверенство" это долговременный эффект,но кто его знает..
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Интересно, как дорого это светлое таверенство обойдётся деревьям. Кстати напомнило Хроники Ковенанта Неверующего. Там у осквернённой земли тоже был период сверхизобилия в цикле. Только по итогу именно он и был самым скверным.
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Ранд сказал, что вокруг него сейчас зона невлияния ВПТ. Т.е. там где Ранд, прикосновение ВПТ не работает. Соответственно, когда Ранд уйдет, через некоторое время там все вернется в прежнее оскверненное состояние. Значит если "светлое" та'веренство закончится до ПБ (что маловероятно, ПБ начнется сразу в конце книги, а "светлое" та'веренство, по идее, должно продлиться не меньше "темного" - равновесие и все дела), то просто исчезнет эффект сверхизобилия, а вот зона невлияния останется. Что тоже неплохо.
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